Comments on: Jan Moir, Nick Griffin, Twitter and the Mob

By: Paul Mackenzie Ross

Paul Mackenzie Ross — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:50:21 +0000

@thejabberywocky6: I’ve not read Dan Brown but I’m all for rattling cages, especially when they’re gilded and deemed “untouchable”.

This latest game of the Catholic church offering to take dispossessed Anglicans under their wing (what, because of women in the priesthood) is a sure sign of the fallible infallibility of these institutions.

I could go on, but I’ll save that for the pub. Might have to watch A&D on DVD or get the audiobook

@Tweet4Gary: Thanks for stopping by, Mike.

It’s good to hear Tweet4Gary was a success despite not getting onto twitter’s trending topics. I’m always a little dismayed when people are watching the idiot tube instead of doing something real, but hey, we’re not finished yet.

No problem with mentioning and supporting Tweet4Gary, it’s all for a good cause

By: Tweet4Gary

Tweet4Gary — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:52:47 +0000

Thanks for the mention of Tweet4Gary.
Our Tweet Obama Day was by our reckoning a great success,and has already given a higher awareness of the situation of Gary McKinnon.
Our web site was storing the tweets throughout
the 24 hour period we were tweeting and there were many thousands.
Its true that Tweet4Gary didn’t become a trending topic that day, Gary McKinnon has trended before though. Personally I feel that getting people to understand the current dangers to all of us with the present UK/US Extradition Treaty, is far more important than our ranking on Twitter, but as I found your site so interesting I felt it was a good time to say thanks for mentioning us and to everyone on Twitter and also Facebook for the ever increasing support of Gary McKinnon.
All The Best.
Mike- Admin- Tweet4Gary.

By: thejabberwocky6

thejabberwocky6 — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:57:16 +0000

In the light of a fictional movie and book, the comparison between the “whiter than white” church and agnostics and atheists is quite topical. Despite obviously being a “story”, Angels and Demons does use real facts and the battle between creationism and science is very real. Therefore it is a joke when ANY religion asks for respect and decency when there has been a millenia of slaughter of anyone who do not believe or believe in something in direct opposite to what the bible tells us. Everything that Dan Brown’s book tells us about the illuminati is true and just goes to show an hopefully will open a few peopls eyes who don’t know the history of the church in Britain and Europe. For centuries their have been cover ups of anything that could question the absolute un-questionable word of God, or what a certian number of people wrote 2000 years ago. No wonder there is an uproar about anything by Dan Brown as everything he writes uses facts in fiction that he probably intends to make people question their faith or the how people perceive the church. Which can only be a good thing.

By: Paul Mackenzie Ross

Paul Mackenzie Ross — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:54:57 +0000

Thank you, my friend. I spent a whole evening on a forum at the time of JStO discussing, very heatedly, with an American-Lebanese Christian friend of mine the ins and outs of the show and the objections against it. Whilst religion furiously demands that we respect it there is the side where religion does not respect non-religion; what happened to the indigenous pagan beliefs of this country? They were destroyed, without mercy, by the overbearing christians for centuries.

So Stephen Green, although I didn’t know him by name at the time, rather than be a good christian is more of a frothing dervish. His indignation at the “immorality” of criticising religion and same-sex relationships is out of context against the real issues of today.

Jan Moir, I think, has suffered enough, so let that be a lesson to her. To live in fear, as I suspect she does these days for her words, is probably a similar fear to that of what gay people have experienced in non-tolerant societies, so to put her, one person, through that is certainly a huge dose of karma but a little OTT now; their point has been made so it’s time to back off. She is one, they are many so it’s unfair to weigh-in on her any further.

As for Mr Fry, I think he’s a great bloke and I respect him very much indeed. His passion over this incident is admirable but the forces he has unleashed upon one person are incredible. I just wish his passion for gay rights could be used to ensure that MPs don’t steal from the public etc.

At the time he said that we ALL take the piss and have a little something out of our jobs, but he fails to realise that whilst Average Joe might skive a day off work and cost his boss £76 a day, the MPs are all in a position of public trust and some of them are taking FAR more than that; widescreen TVs, furnishing their homes, having second homes, having their mortgages paid… You can tell that Mr Fry isn’t middle or working class, bless him.

So, if twitter and the mob could focus on saving an ill man from deportation against the government of a superpower that has already made him suffer enough, then that would be far more useful and positive than watching “talent” on TV or condemning people that dare to criticise.

By: thejabberwocky6

thejabberwocky6 — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:49:11 +0000

Bang on, my friend, bang on the money! Whilst I don’t know enough about the Gary McKinnon situation, Stephen Green is renouned for his bible-bashing clap trap and the Jerry Springer Opera outburst. Jan Moir did write a load of half baked shit but when, in hindsight, you look back at the huge backlash it seems such an overeaction to what was essentially something shrouded in a bit of mystery with new revelations everyday. I think ultimately with Stephen Fry, Jan’s ridiculous rant about the end of the happy ever after story for gay marrage probably struck a chord with him as this was obviously a pretty hideous statement to make!