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	<title>Comments on: The Tumbledown Dick &#8211; 15 Months On</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Mackenzie Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Mackenzie Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fran, thank you for your support, it&#039;s very much appreciated.

Myself &amp; another supporter have both been informed that there is to be a feature in the Farnborough News on Friday, so the story takes another twist.

It is sad that a once shabby hive of activity is now being neglected even further and for what cause?

It is really sad that the place remains closed and if The Tumbledown is lost as a music venue then it would be a sad reflection on the local council and their opinion of those that elect them to power and then pay their wages...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fran, thank you for your support, it&#8217;s very much appreciated.</p>
<p>Myself &amp; another supporter have both been informed that there is to be a feature in the Farnborough News on Friday, so the story takes another twist.</p>
<p>It is sad that a once shabby hive of activity is now being neglected even further and for what cause?</p>
<p>It is really sad that the place remains closed and if The Tumbledown is lost as a music venue then it would be a sad reflection on the local council and their opinion of those that elect them to power and then pay their wages&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, great work so far.. I hope Rushmoor and Gerald Howarth MP come up with some answers and assert some pressure on the Spirit Group to stop the dereliction of this much loved and very integral part of the community.  I live only a few roads away from the pub and am saddened every day by it&#039;s continued closure.  I really hope that lots of us keep up the pressure for answers and ideally further investment to return the pub to its former glory and above all KEEP the live music venue, a critical bit of culture in a town that has been severely neglected in this area for far too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul, great work so far.. I hope Rushmoor and Gerald Howarth MP come up with some answers and assert some pressure on the Spirit Group to stop the dereliction of this much loved and very integral part of the community.  I live only a few roads away from the pub and am saddened every day by it&#8217;s continued closure.  I really hope that lots of us keep up the pressure for answers and ideally further investment to return the pub to its former glory and above all KEEP the live music venue, a critical bit of culture in a town that has been severely neglected in this area for far too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mackenzie Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Mackenzie Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed you&#039;d signed the petition when I looked this morning to see if there&#039;d been any impact. Good job.

Regarding the sterilisation of certain aspects of Rushmoor I&#039;m not sure the council actually realise what an articulate and respectable bunch of people the overwhelming majority of the Tumbledown patrons are. I think there&#039;s an incorrect generalisation that every punter was unwashed, had dreadlocks, tattoos, piercings and a dead-end job, which is mighty condescending if that is the case.

But if we can get The Spirit Group to work with us I&#039;m sure they&#039;d find that we can all make this a better pub that we can all be proud of and that they can turn into a good profit. All they have to do is talk with us and we can keep the venue, add a few more beers and attract a few new clients in. It&#039;s not hard and all they have to do come along with us or sell it to us!

Gerald Howarth&#039;s response was excellent, and Councillor David Clifford has responded aswell. Now, to pursue this dialogue through to an outcome that benefits ALL of us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed you&#8217;d signed the petition when I looked this morning to see if there&#8217;d been any impact. Good job.</p>
<p>Regarding the sterilisation of certain aspects of Rushmoor I&#8217;m not sure the council actually realise what an articulate and respectable bunch of people the overwhelming majority of the Tumbledown patrons are. I think there&#8217;s an incorrect generalisation that every punter was unwashed, had dreadlocks, tattoos, piercings and a dead-end job, which is mighty condescending if that is the case.</p>
<p>But if we can get The Spirit Group to work with us I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d find that we can all make this a better pub that we can all be proud of and that they can turn into a good profit. All they have to do is talk with us and we can keep the venue, add a few more beers and attract a few new clients in. It&#8217;s not hard and all they have to do come along with us or sell it to us!</p>
<p>Gerald Howarth&#8217;s response was excellent, and Councillor David Clifford has responded aswell. Now, to pursue this dialogue through to an outcome that benefits ALL of us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thejabberwocky6</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done Paul. I signed the petition and also wrote a piece about it for my journalism course, along side a piece about the possibility the West End Centre was to close last year (or the year before). Seems Rushmoor Council are doing all they can to sanitise and destroy any culture or enjoyment in Rushmoor. The Spirit Group did a similar job with a pub in Guidlford whose name slips my mind at the moment. Its right on the High Street (cobbled) at the bottom of the hill (The Star?) Anyway, it still holds an old fashioned &quot;spit and sawdust&quot; feel, whilst its clean and improved. Not sure what the delay is regarding the Tumbly is. Have to give credit to Gerald Howarth for such a swift and committed response. Lets hope the end result is positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done Paul. I signed the petition and also wrote a piece about it for my journalism course, along side a piece about the possibility the West End Centre was to close last year (or the year before). Seems Rushmoor Council are doing all they can to sanitise and destroy any culture or enjoyment in Rushmoor. The Spirit Group did a similar job with a pub in Guidlford whose name slips my mind at the moment. Its right on the High Street (cobbled) at the bottom of the hill (The Star?) Anyway, it still holds an old fashioned &#8220;spit and sawdust&#8221; feel, whilst its clean and improved. Not sure what the delay is regarding the Tumbly is. Have to give credit to Gerald Howarth for such a swift and committed response. Lets hope the end result is positive.</p>
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